Hi Deeskis. It sounds like you and I have similar backgrounds. I was raised a JW and left when I was about twenty-four (twenty-six years ago). I didn’t fade away; I let them know in no uncertain terms that I no longer wanted to be considered a JW, for which they Df’d me of course. After I left, a few years later I went through the whole "got saved" thing, and I spent endless hours trying to get my JW to open her eyes and look at the Watchtower Society for what it really was. But I never accomplished a thing and only wound up alienating her and even made her more dedicated to her "truth". I don’t know if you’re looking for advice, but if I were to give you the benefit of my experience, it would be to leave it alone. I don’t think you’ll change them, or teach them anything. After all, you’re the child and they’re the parents and that puts you at a (teaching) disadvantage, even though you are the age you are. The dynamics of the parent –child relationship never really changes, I don’t think. I wouldn’t ever even mention the Watchtower Society to them, if it were I. Oh well, this just my opinion of course. Good luck!
Steve Lowry
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Dateline
by deeskis ini've been reading many of the posts on the site for the last few weeks.
i wasn't looking for a jw site but came across it by chance on a google search for australian music, when one of tijkmo's posts came up.
my eyes nearly popped out of my head when i saw the jw chat!!!
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
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some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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BTW, all the repsonses in thread have been very thought provoking and some have have made me laugh out loud! (broccoli in a glass of milk.... Now thats funny!)
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
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some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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I've learned that you can't possibly imagine all of the emotions you're going to go through in a divorce, when there are children involved. (50)
I've learned that when my ten year old little girl tells me she loves me, the cares of the day melt away.
I've learned that very often its better to better prepared than smart when dealing with your adversary.
I've learned that God honors hard work and sacrifice.
I've learned that in looking back on my life, I regret more those things I didn't do, than those that I did do.
I've learned that I can forget to do something if its unpleasent, but I never forget to do something if its fun.
I've learned that the greatest liar I ever met, has been me, to myself.
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
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some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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( "I've learned that no one nor any group has total truth, regardless if they say they do." Age 50)
" I've learned that most people that make such claims have not explored ALL groups !"
An interesting perspective Carmel, but I believe an inaccurate one. No ONE has total truth. There is no philosophy (religious system, etc) which contains total truth. Some truth can be found in individuals (or groups), but not total truth. Some have more truth, and some have less, but none have all. We all want that though, don’t we? We want to believe we can go to one place (individual, group, etc.) and get all truth. That way we don’t have to keep looking for it. This part of the human condition is what I believe makes for fertile ground for organizations like the Watchtower Society and other cultic groups. Once people are convinced that the group (or individual) they’re following has all truth, they stop searching for it and are lost in their worship of the source. No, I respectfully disagree with you that there is some group or some-one "out there" that possesses all truth. It cannot be discovered or "explored" (as you say), because it simply does not exist. And if you believe it does, then I believe you’re setting yourself up for a fall. But, that said, I respect that everyone must choose his or her own path.
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Do you think this is for real
by skyman ina few weeks ago a man that live near my house wrecked his car and was killed about 5:45 am.
the mans friend my partner in business was at my house at 6:00 the go hunting on my place.
after he went hunting he left to find what had happened to his friend because he had not shown up.
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Well, I don't know about speaking with the dead, but I have had experience with speaking with the spirit realm. There IS something there, I just don't know what it is exactly. Speaking with the 'invisibles' is not something I ever wanna do in this life again, so I understand your wife's concerns.
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Is it all downhill after leaving JW's?
by lynnmelo ini know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
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"a very interesting comment Steve, you probably become what you always really were."
Well, its a work in progress of course. But at age 50, I have learned the value of the old saying, " To thyself be true!".
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Is it all downhill after leaving JW's?
by lynnmelo ini know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
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"I should have indicated that it seems to me that many people who formerly believed in the bible and God no longer seem to believe in either once they leave the Jehovah's Witnesses. As many here have indicated, that is their choice, but on my end, I'd never want to have that happen to me, which is why I posted my concern.'
Never be afraid of where your mind can take you.
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
" and followed by the age of the author.
some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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I've learned that doing the right thing isn't always the smart thing, but doing the right thing is always right." Age 50
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
" and followed by the age of the author.
some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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Someone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "I've learned that . . ." and followed by the age of the author. Some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " I've learned that if I turn my ice cream cone upside down, I don't have an ice cream cone anymore. Age 8". And some were very wise such as; "I've learned that losing my job at age 55 was the best thing that could ever happen to my life. Age 60". Anyway, I thought it might be interesting to hear what you here have learned, using this format. You can add as many lines as you like of course. No rules. You don't have to state your age if you don't wanna. Here's one of mine:
"I've learned that no one nor any group has total truth, regardless if they say they do." Age 50
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Real Men!
by Legolas inok from almost thread!
"real" men drive trucks or suv's, no exceptions!
i put my lipstick while diving, if i have to!
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A real man knows he's a real man, regardless of what he drives. Come on now.
A real man is one who takes care of his family, no matter what.
A real man isn't afraid to apologize. He knows that can make him stronger, not weaker.
A real man is flexible and not threatened by different points of view.
A real man doesn't return harsh words for one's recieved. He's above that kind of thing.
A real man realizes that being kind is not a weakness.
A real man can admit when he's wrong, because he know's life is simply a lesson that never ends.
Oh yea, and a real man can pee into a bottle and drive at the same time! (Smile)